How long have you been writing, particularly
fiction?A lot of what I wrote on exams in
high school wasn't exactly factual, but I guess my first real fling at fiction
came shortly before I was discharged from the Army Air Forces in the fall of
1945. I was an Aviation Cadet at Randolph Field, San Antonio, TX. Since the
shooting had tapered off, they
didn't need pilots or navigators or bombardiers anymore. I was assigned as a
clerk at the Transient Bachelor Officers Quarters. Another cadet there—who had
spent hard time at Yale before being called up—told me if he could start over
again he'd study journalism. It sounded great to me (my Army duties had included
things like raking gravel). So, to warm up for this life-changing experience, I
sat down at an old Underwood and began typing a plot involving the A-bomb, which
had recently halted the Far East unpleasantness. I've been writing in one form
or another ever since. How long is that? Go figure.
How did you get into mysteries?
My interest was aroused initially when I read
Horace McCoy's They Shoot Horses, Don't They? and No Pockets in a
Shroud, back in 1947. No Pockets involved a newspaper reporter
involved in a murder case. I
was studying journalism at the University of Tennessee and went to work as a reporter
for The Knoxville Journal at the start of my junior year. Going to class
fulltime during the day and working fulltime as a reporter mostly at night left me
with so much free
time that I got on my Smith-Corona portable, in the basement of the Lambda Chi Alpha
Fraternity house where I
was living, and pounded out a murder mystery involving—guess what—a newspaper
reporter. The opening chapter was titled "Murder He Wrote." The few editors who received the manuscript did not reply with great
enthusiasm, so I decided to concentrate on news writing for the moment.
Writing can sometimes be controversial, has it ever caused
you any trouble?
You could say that, though probably not in the way you’re thinking. My
Knoxville Air National Guard unit was mobilized for the Korean War. When I
returned in 1953, I married the girl I had left behind as an RN just out of
nursing school and moved back home to Nashville. I tried writing short stories
for a while, but when my wife began acting extremely pregnant, I took a paying
job with The Nashville Banner. Writing feature stories was my forte, and
soon I began submitting articles to magazines. My superiors at the newspaper
didn’t appreciate this split allegiance. They suggested I go home and freelance
fulltime (sounds better than getting fired, doesn’t it?).
We pause here
for a little sidebar.
If you'd like to see what
came of that marriage, check out the picture at this link. Then come on back and
hear, as Paul Harvey would say, "the rest of the story."
Did you stay at home and freelance?
I did. Sold articles to Coronet, The American Legion Magazine,
The Rotarian, and others. But my wife had a bad habit of getting pregnant
and freelancing didn’t pay enough to support a growing family. So I got a job in
public relations. Among other things, I served as a flack for the local mayor.
This was another turn in your career?
My career path resembles a snake. I went to work next as Information
Officer for the Tennessee Department of Revenue.
That meant you tackled the job of explaining the intricacies of state
taxation, right?
Wrong. My sole assignment was to write speeches for the governor. I
don’t remember any of them being about taxes or revenue.
So you became involved in the political arena?
Hardly. The guv was on his way out of office, and I had other fish to
bake (don’t care for fried). I put together a team to publish a consumer monthly
called Nashville Magazine. You talk about trouble. This was back in the
days of lunch counter sit-ins and such. I dealt a little too kindly with the
civil rights folks and some potential advertisers cancelled their potential. But
there were plenty of good civic-minded businessmen and one of them came to our
rescue when the publication faltered.
Did your career as a magazine editor lead to better things?
It led to my bailing out for a job in the creative department of a local
advertising agency, which paid a heckuva lot better. I wrote copy for such
clients as Kentucky Fried Chicken, Pizza Hut and Martha White Flour. I did
commercials for the Flatt & Scruggs TV show, which was a big hit with country fans.
I even wrote ad copy for a high-rise mausoleum. I did some parody ads that got
lots of laughs around the agency—luckily the client
didn’t see them.
When did you get back to novel writing?
In the late ’sixties and early ’seventies I scratched out enough time to
write a Cold War story that took place in Iran and Nashville. We had radar sites
over there keeping an electronic eye on the Soviets. My plot involved a
Vanderbilt professor who was a defector with the answer to a plot that knocked
our radar out of commission. It brought several rejections, but an editor at
Avon kept it for six months or more before giving up trying to sell it to his
colleagues.
Did that lead to more novel writing?
Not exactly. I took a job managing a statewide trade association. Getting the
organization to where it needed to be was a 60 to 70 hours a week task, with a
lot of travel. I also put out a bimonthly magazine almost single-handedly. My
family now included two sons and two daughters and the oldest was about ready
for college. I thought about fiction writing quite often, but mostly I thought
I’ll do it when I find a little time. You ever go looking for a little time?
It’s worse then trying to find a needle in a stack of nails with a metal
detector.
So how did you manage to start writing novels again?
Sheer burnout.
Sheer burnout?
Seems there’s an echo in here. Yeah, I got burned out at the association
and decided to retire a bit early—at 62½. I told
everybody I was going to write novels after I retired and, of course, didn’t want to make
myself out a liar. My wife had been diagnosed with Parkinson’s Disease a few
years earlier and our traveling days were about over. So I upgraded my computer,
plopped down in my swivel chair and began to write.
Did you start writing mysteries then?
Mystery/suspense. I had been a spy story fan since the early days of Helen
MacInnes, then graduated to Graham Greene, John LeCarre, Len Deighton and Robert
Ludlum. So starting in 1990, I wrote a trilogy involving the end of the Cold
War. I had a different literary agent for each book. The first left the field, the second
died and the third put my manuscripts on the shelf and let them gather dust. But I
kept writing. A suspense story about a computer genius who developed a program
that would emulate a person’s voice well enough to fool a voice print analysis
came next. Then the tale of a former Green Beret who stumbles upon a document
that unmasks a secret militia conspiracy. Following that came the story of a
busload of senior citizens bound for New Orleans, shadowed by a Mafia hit squad
after a passenger who had helped decimate the "family" in court.
Did all of those manuscripts end up in the garbage bin?
Heaven forbid! They reside on hard and floppy disks and in stacks of paper
that line the floor of my office, just waiting for the resurrecting moment when
some editor can’t wait to see them. Well, to be realistic, which is not my
nature, at least a couple of them still have potential.
Let’s get to your first published novel, Secret of the
Scroll.
Yes, let’s.
How did you come up with Greg McKenzie?
I am of the Clan Campbell, of course. Not devout enough to own a kilt, I
might add. Anyway, I chose another good Scottish name for my protagonist. I also
wanted someone with investigative experience. With my Air Force background—after a number of years in the Air National Guard following Korea, I retired
from the reserves as a lieutenant colonel—I decided
a military man would present some interesting possibilities.
Your Holy Land descriptions sound authentic, have you been
there?
My wife died in early 1998 and I went on a tour that November similar to
the one taken by Greg and Jill McKenzie. Our guide was a woman, but she provided
the catalyst for my character Jake Cohen. Two other characters, Sam and Wilma
Gannon, came out of that trip.
What are you working on now?
I recently finished the fifth Greg McKenzie book, titled A Sporting Murder,
for release in September 2010 by Night Shadows Press. I'm
just getting started on the second book of a new series featuring Sid Chance.
The first, titled The Surest Poison, was published in 2009. Sid is a
former National Park ranger and small town police chief, now a P.I. in
Nashville.
Where do you live and write?
I have re-married and live with my wife Sarah in the Nashville suburb of
Madison, TN. I do most of my writing here, but each spring and fall for several
years, we spent two
weeks at a condo on the beach at Perdido Key, FL, where it's easier to write
without distraction (and where I came up with the locale for Designed to Kill,
book two in the series). Alas, Hurricane Ivan destroyed the condo and our
favorite hideaway. My wife is an integral part of my writing career, being
head cheerleader and sales director. At book signings, she greets people and
steers them toward the table where I’m signing.
What about your four children?
As you might imagine, they aren’t kids anymore, though that’s how I still
refer to them. Steve works for EDS (Electronic Data Systems) at Camp Hill, PA
with two married sons. The older one and his wife
gave me my first great-granddaughter. The younger, an Army lieutenant, is
expecting a son soon. Mark and his wife (from Inchon,
South Korea) ran businesses that were done in by the recession. He's a security
guard until he can find something that better fits his talents. He has two sons,
the younger working in Hawaii, the older in Louisville with his wife just out of
the Army and expecting a son. Anne is manager of an OB/GYN
physician’s practice in the Atlanta suburbs. Betsy, the youngest, is raising two
girls and two boys in Oak Ridge, TN, where her husband works for the Department
of Energy contractor (he messes with 'puters, not plutonium). Sarah has added
another girl and boy (or the mature versions thereof) to the family, plus two
granddaughters, a grandson and four great-grandchildren. It makes for rather
hectic—but fun—dinners at Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter.
What’s your advice to would-be novelists?
Don’t just sit there, write! Read all you can about the techniques of novel writing, and read lots
of novels in the genre you’re interested in pursuing. If possible, get into a
writers critique group, where you can share comments on each other’s work. But
the most important thing is to keep at it. Write and revise and polish and write
some more. Writing is an art that improves the more you pursue it. If you stick at it, you’ll probably make it. And
if you're lucky, it won’t
take you 76 years like it did me.